tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post3079192792530661810..comments2023-10-25T08:46:20.242-05:00Comments on The Distributist Review: The Circular Firing SquadJohn Médaillehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16463267750952578888noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-41370329133358170302009-04-02T02:09:00.000-05:002009-04-02T02:09:00.000-05:00The post is very useful.The post is very useful.Rajuhttp://www.rayhosting.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-59513779054510886612009-01-06T10:15:00.000-06:002009-01-06T10:15:00.000-06:00A.M.C. Currie tried to start a distributist party ...A.M.C. Currie tried to start a distributist party in the 1930's, but distributists back then didn't view a formal party as a solution.<BR/><BR/>I believe individuals, supported by campaigns can certainly have a serious impact, especially at the local level. I am however skeptical of a regularized party.Richard Alemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05272016770106926094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-26377967307107881622009-01-04T07:18:00.000-06:002009-01-04T07:18:00.000-06:00Is there a more activist possibility?Chesterbelloc...Is there a more activist possibility?<BR/><BR/>Chesterbelloc's main practical goal appears to have been "propaganda" - awakening a desire for true liberty where there basically had been none.<BR/><BR/>In the UK there are small campaigns like the Land Value Taxation campaign which appear to have similar ideas to distributism.<BR/><BR/>Given that parties are such a mixed bag as you say, is there room to put forward a political party as a platform these ideas (basically subsidiarity)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-79926773808805242822008-12-29T09:30:00.000-06:002008-12-29T09:30:00.000-06:00Mr. I. Face. Thanks you for your comments. I agree...Mr. I. Face. Thanks you for your comments. I agree, the left/right dichotomy turns politics into an interesting game, like football, but like football, it has very little meaning.<BR/><BR/>S. 7, I agree on the importance of the family and the decisive quality is demographics. Further, I think that societies that lose their sexual vigor also lose their intellectual vigor and finally lose everything. But for me, that means everything is scaled to the family, which means local scale. The larger political world serves a purpose and the empire has a place, but its place is to serve the family, not displace it.<BR/><BR/>I agree that the Bible is the place to start. It is an often overlooked fact that the first command given to man and woman is not about apples and not even about love of neighbor; the first command is to make love. God says to his children, "get on with getting it on!" That's my kind of God!John Médaillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16463267750952578888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-55138901476108029502008-12-29T07:28:00.000-06:002008-12-29T07:28:00.000-06:00John,Here is some applause from the choir..."Hurra...John,<BR/><BR/>Here is some applause from the choir..."Hurray! Spot on! Bravo!"<BR/><BR/>Septeus7,<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I understand where exactly you disagree with John. It doesn't seem like you're saying that his definition of liberty as well as what conservatism ought to conserve is tending towards harmonia and eunomia. Am I reading you correctly? I wasn't sure if you were disagreeing or refining his point. In any case, I think you could very well consolidate a party platform to "Pro-Life, Pro-Production, Pro-Worker." Granted, this would be a radical departure for either party but if developed effectively would ring true for the majority of the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-981174582488766052008-12-29T01:46:00.000-06:002008-12-29T01:46:00.000-06:00Hello John, that was a very nice post but few thin...Hello John, that was a very nice post but few things have me confused or maybe I disagree. <BR/><BR/>First you say "What is it that conservatives seek to conserve?” The obvious answer is 'liberty.'" and then you say "What conservatism ought to conserve is the proper scale of things..." It seems like you are saying two different things regarding what conservatives ought to conserve. <BR/><BR/>The way I think about it is that human civilization is given 3 commands in Genesis; 1. Be Fruitful and Multiply. 2. Replenish the Earth and subdue it; have dominion over other form of life. 3. "till thou return unto the ground." and conservatives are trying to "conserve" civilization by making sure that we follow these rules for civilization.<BR/><BR/>Now look all of these commands and see how necessary these are to civilization. Every civilization and nation that have ceased to increase permanently it native population has failed. They have died off or were displaced by nations with increasing populations. Every civilization that failed to manage manage or have "domination" of natural resource base by using their minds and knowledge, labor to replenish the Earth and extended the resource base but instead let the power of wilderness, disease, and drought, storms, displace the native population has failed. And every civilization that could not grow it's own food has also destroyed itself. <BR/><BR/>So to "conserve" civilization we must support: 1.Increasing the relative population density of the native population (No Abortion, No War, No Eugenics). 2. Replenishing and increasing the resource base needed sustain increases in human population using the unique creativity given to man being made in the image of God. 3. workers (starting with farmers) and infrastructure that is needed to alter the land to make it more productive to these ends i.e. production and labor not trade, finances or thief is basis of human economy.<BR/><BR/>So where does liberty come into this? I think comes in understand that if men are not at liberty to follow the kinds of activity needed for civilization but are instead subjected to a parasite ruling class then that civilization will fail and its people perish. So liberty, properly conceived is necessary for civilization to survive thus must be defended as part of the proper order of things. <BR/><BR/>So between conserving the "proper scale of things" or "liberty" I think "liberty' is subsumed within the 'proper of scale of things" as far as politics are concerned. Liberty exists as an idea within the Gestalts of Eunomia and Harmonia. <BR/><BR/>As far I can see the major problem today not just with conservative but liberals as well as they are trying to created rules according an "ideal condition" called liberty whereas government must be guided by the principles which lead us toward the condition. The condition of liberty tells you nothing about how it is to be achieved thus can be the basis for nothing except nihilism. <BR/><BR/> Those principles result in the condition of liberty are Harmonia and Eunomia and almost no one today has the slightest clue as what the principles of harmony and good order are well can see the results in music, arts, buildings, business practices, laws and on and on.<BR/><BR/>I hope this clarifies where I'm coming from and I hope John responds telling me where I went wrong with my biblical application but hopefully those 3 principles I mentioned can become the basis of something of a political cons`ensus i.e. Pro-Life, Pro-Production, Pro-Worker. I hope people can get behind that platform otherwise I don't see much hope for the nation and indeed Western civilization (you can't build a civilization on eugenics, consumerism, and usury). <BR/><BR/>As you stated we "conservatives" are in a period of "self-examination" and I know started reconsidering things from being a mainstream right wing conservative in about 2006 into something between a Classical Cameralist and a Neo Distributist but I know this process necessary and if the circular firing squad doesn't kill us hopefully it make us stronger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-37137548688191610862008-12-28T16:27:00.000-06:002008-12-28T16:27:00.000-06:00if you hold down ALT while typing 0233 on the numb...if you hold down ALT while typing 0233 on the number pad, the e with accent aigu will appear =) (or you could switch your keyboard to U.S. International mode; however, it doesn't seem like that would be very practical in your case. <BR/><BR/>I made the opposite journey. I come from a long line of die hard Republicans who lean towards the more libertarian end of the "political diamond." I'm the only distributist I know non-virtually and I get a lot of flack from by mainstream Republican acquaintances. Fortunately they are rather understanding, so my registering as an Independent didn't cause any problems. =)don pedrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831624042487723987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7608702.post-83453783373081590672008-12-28T12:24:00.000-06:002008-12-28T12:24:00.000-06:00Another well written blog Mr. Medaille. I'm quite ...Another well written blog Mr. Medaille. I'm quite new to the distributist scene and I only know the basics of it. Slowly but surely I am coming around to agreeing with distributism. ( I wouldn't call myself a distributist yet. )<BR/>I used to be the ultimate liberal lefty in my teens. An atheist, a socialist and a republican ( the no monarch type not the political party. ) <BR/>Nowadays I am not a liberal or a conservative. I find that like the left/right political spectrum, the liberal/conservative political spectrum seems far too broad for people's social and politcal views e.g. A person could be pro life and agree with gay marriage. What does it make this person a conservative, a liberal, a lefty or a righty.<BR/>What Thomas Storck has written on another distributist website sums up my feelings of the liberal/conservative thing perfectly.<BR/>here's the blog: http://distributist.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-i-didnt-become-conservative.html<BR/>Also as a former liberal lefty, I can say that many liberals also believe in strong family values and strong communities as well. Where I live ( jolly old England ) it's the left wingers that are opposed to intrusive government tactics and the right wingers are all for them.<BR/>Well that is my two cents on this blog. Looking forward to more of your blogs and learning more about distributism.<BR/><BR/>P.S. I don't know how to put the slash mark above the first "e" in you surname. If it offends you I am very sorry.IDIOT facehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09227525883124715830noreply@blogger.com